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docs: added _Podman Desktop does not manage native Podman_ #3205

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@themr0c themr0c commented Jul 13, 2023

What does this PR do?

Added Podman Desktop does not manage native Podman section

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What issues does this PR fix or reference?

refs #3045

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Signed-off-by: Fabrice Flore-Thébault <ffloreth@redhat.com>
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afbjorklund commented Jul 13, 2023

Podman Desktop does not manage Podman Machine (yet) either, on Linux

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I'm not sure to fully get what it does. On Linux, Podman can run natively or with Podman machines.

The only 'if' is that for now Podman Desktop connects only to the native socket and do not handle/expose the machines of podman on Linux.
But podman can still use with VM

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themr0c commented Jul 18, 2023

On Linux you can't use Podman Desktop to manage (create, configure, start, stop, delete) Podman machines. That's even reason number one I can't craft and test scenarios on Linux.

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benoitf commented Jul 18, 2023

@themr0c yes but this is not the message that is written in this PR

In this PR, it is basically saying that Podman works natively and not with machine. (but it's not related to podman)

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themr0c commented Jul 18, 2023

Yes, I thought so..That's what I have been told so far.

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benoitf commented Jul 18, 2023

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Podman on Linux works natively and with machines (you can create machines)
It's just that Podman Desktop connects for now only the native podman that need to be installed by the user.

The message of this PR is mixing Podman Desktop and Podman restrictions.

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themr0c commented Jul 18, 2023

So the situation is more complex than I tought.

Are these assertions correct?

On Linux:

  1. Podman might run natively or with a podman machine.

  2. Podman Desktop does only connect to the default podman connection (default? or native rootless?).

  3. Podman Desktop does not manage podman native configuration or podman machine (create, configure, start, stop, delete).

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benoitf commented Jul 18, 2023

Podman might run natively or with a podman machine.

yes

Podman Desktop does only connect to the default podman connection (default? or native rootless?).

connects to the rootless only (and not to the rootful) (I think @afbjorklund created an issue for being able to use rootful if wanted)

Podman Desktop does not manage podman native configuration or podman machine (create, configure, start, stop, delete).

I think proxy/registries are managed so i'm not sure about the 'native configuration'

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To make matters even more confusing, Podman Desktop does start up a new daemon ("system service")

And there are some permissions issues, when it comes to talking to the default (root) Podman socket

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Signed-off-by: Fabrice Flore-Thébault <ffloreth@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Fabrice Flore-Thébault <ffloreth@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Fabrice Flore-Thébault <ffloreth@redhat.com>
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themr0c commented Jul 18, 2023

Better now?

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themr0c commented Jul 18, 2023

From the Android GitHub app they appear merged. But this app is far from perfect.

@themr0c themr0c merged commit 5829b8c into containers:main Jul 18, 2023
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